Minus the hard-selling invites, repeated topics and meaningless repetitions and traditions… I probably will consider church again.
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6 Responses to “If Sunday sermons were this entertaining…”
This guy’s a comedian, so I guess I’ll take what he’s saying with a grain of salt. ;D
On going back to church again, incidentally many who deliver content in an entertaining way don’t deliver the content with fidelity that’s a good source of wrong attitudes/lives/understandings leading to the stuff that does put people off.
Not saying that my church or the churches I know fulfill the criterion mentioned above, but I’m pretty sure that there’re churches/pastors/speakers that (generally) do teach the bible properly, both content-wise and delivery-wise.
The question of fidelity would require the listener to discern what is accurate and what is not. Since there is no way to unequivocally prove or disprove interpretations of the Word, then it is meaningless to talk about fidelity in this case since it is a game of popularity, the popular interpretation wins. What is concerning with people nowadays is that the majority take interpretations wholesale from the man on the pulpit without even bothered to explore or dig deeper.
But when the Pharisees heard that He had put the Sadducees to silence, they gathered themselves together. And one of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him, “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
And He said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the great and foremost commandment. The second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.”
With the previous comment, I take it that you’ve tried to dig deeper into finding out the truthfulness of what the preacher has been saying, before coming to your conclusions.
The problem with “interpretations” of the Word has one main root (as I perceive), the process that the Word is meant to be interpreted is misunderstood. Hence the confusion, and the majority of people today resorting to thinking that what’s common/popular must be absolutely correct.
I believe that the God knows what’s on his mind when he gave his apostles to document what was collected for us in what we call the bible today. Hence, handling the right documents properly can yield the right understanding of what it meant then, and what it means for us today. With some help from the “invisible man” of course =)
If what you said was right, then we cannot say that the two greatest commandments are meant to be interpreted that way Since it’s what’s the majority of people take to be true.
Not disagreeing on that understanding of the two greatest commandments, I’m sure you’ve understood that part right. But the question comes, is that the full/big picture? If we look around/deeper into the bible, it’ll become apparent that these two commandments cannot be fulfilled by man without external help: to prove it, just look at the people around, and if I may say so, take a look at our own lives/thoughts.
I don’t know as yet the exact details of what you’ve been through, but I know what it means to fall victim to wrong teachings. And it hurts. That is why I sincerely hope that you’ll be able to find what’s true and right, what God meant when he gave us Christ in his sovereign providence.
I believe it has to come from within, not external. Over time, I choose to believe the invisible man cannot change the inner man without the man’s own will. If we can be changed without our own will, we are as good as robots. I am not too overly obsessed with who is right or wrong like most Christians like to spend most of their time doing. If the entire string comments made here is about who is right, then I will end it with you being right with your opinions. I concede
September 24th, 2007 at 2:28 am
This guy’s a comedian, so I guess I’ll take what he’s saying with a grain of salt. ;D
On going back to church again, incidentally many who deliver content in an entertaining way don’t deliver the content with fidelity
that’s a good source of wrong attitudes/lives/understandings leading to the stuff that does put people off.
Not saying that my church or the churches I know fulfill the criterion mentioned above, but I’m pretty sure that there’re churches/pastors/speakers that (generally) do teach the bible properly, both content-wise and delivery-wise.
September 24th, 2007 at 9:37 am
The question of fidelity would require the listener to discern what is accurate and what is not. Since there is no way to unequivocally prove or disprove interpretations of the Word, then it is meaningless to talk about fidelity in this case since it is a game of popularity, the popular interpretation wins. What is concerning with people nowadays is that the majority take interpretations wholesale from the man on the pulpit without even bothered to explore or dig deeper.
September 24th, 2007 at 9:15 pm
But when the Pharisees heard that He had put the Sadducees to silence, they gathered themselves together. And one of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him, “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
And He said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the great and foremost commandment. The second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.”
We just need to remember these two…
September 24th, 2007 at 11:28 pm
With the previous comment, I take it that you’ve tried to dig deeper into finding out the truthfulness of what the preacher has been saying, before coming to your conclusions.
The problem with “interpretations” of the Word has one main root (as I perceive), the process that the Word is meant to be interpreted is misunderstood. Hence the confusion, and the majority of people today resorting to thinking that what’s common/popular must be absolutely correct.
I believe that the God knows what’s on his mind when he gave his apostles to document what was collected for us in what we call the bible today. Hence, handling the right documents properly can yield the right understanding of what it meant then, and what it means for us today. With some help from the “invisible man” of course =)
If what you said was right, then we cannot say that the two greatest commandments are meant to be interpreted that way
Since it’s what’s the majority of people take to be true.
Not disagreeing on that understanding of the two greatest commandments, I’m sure you’ve understood that part right. But the question comes, is that the full/big picture? If we look around/deeper into the bible, it’ll become apparent that these two commandments cannot be fulfilled by man without external help: to prove it, just look at the people around, and if I may say so, take a look at our own lives/thoughts.
I don’t know as yet the exact details of what you’ve been through, but I know what it means to fall victim to wrong teachings. And it hurts. That is why I sincerely hope that you’ll be able to find what’s true and right, what God meant when he gave us Christ in his sovereign providence.
September 28th, 2007 at 12:35 am
I believe it has to come from within, not external. Over time, I choose to believe the invisible man cannot change the inner man without the man’s own will. If we can be changed without our own will, we are as good as robots. I am not too overly obsessed with who is right or wrong like most Christians like to spend most of their time doing. If the entire string comments made here is about who is right, then I will end it with you being right with your opinions. I concede
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:16 am
Hahaha, you know (or I’ll say here) that I’m not interested in “winning” the discussion. Let truth speak for itself, my dear friend